Chapter 11 – Publius Enigma and answers

I was still looking for some media outlet where I could tell the story. It wasn’t just mine to keep to myself. It was a huge deal, and it was apparent that I was to tell what happened and use the lyrics and artwork clues so I’d be believed and get some justice. And I was sure the fans would want to know the story.

I decided to look for David Gilmour’s interviews in rock magazines to see if he’d say anything. Sure enough, he talked about Detroit, the Publius Enigma, and the internet in the 1995 Guitar World magazine article. That’s all I needed to know and where I had to tell the story. It was like a clue from Gilmour himself.

When my family received a complimentary computer from Ford Motor Company, my son hooked it up, and I got busy searching for the Publius Enigma. That’s when I learned that on June 11, 1994, a user of the anonymous Penet remailer service posted the following message to the Usenet Newsgroup for Pink Floyd fans (which is now defunct).

(It was 1995, and the Internet had a worldwide user base of less than 40 million. The Internet user base of today is 50 times larger.)

>>>>>>>> T H E M E S S A G E <<<<<<<<

My friends,

You have heard the message Pink Floyd has delivered,but have you listened?

Perhaps I can be your guide, but I will not solve the enigma for you.

All of you must open your minds and communicate with each other, as this is the only way, the answers can be revealed.

I may help you, but only if obstacles arise.





If I don’t promise you the answers would you go.



Pink Floyd was still on tour while Publius was posting on the internet to the newsgroup. Fans were very skeptical and kept posting, asking him or her who they were. I knew immediately that no one within the Pink Floyd camp could ever reveal their name since they were giving clues about The Division Bell. I knew Publius had to be someone connected to the band or the band members themselves because the Publius clues were very closely tied to the tour guide artwork, which revealed my location. Publius posted about 22 messages to the newsgroup. But there were also fraudulent Publius messages that were sent from a different place from the original. After that, the true Publius stopped posting to the newsgroup. He posted on and off for about three years.

Below are more of the original posts that reveal the most important clues. All of the other Publius messages are on the internet.

A message from Publius posted July 8, 1994:

AS SOME OF YOU HAVE SUSPECTED, “The Division Bell” is not like its predecessors. Although all great music is subject to multiple interpretations, in this case there is a central purpose and a designed solution. For the ingenious person (or group of persons) who recognizes this – and where this information points to – a unique prize has been secreted.

How and Where?

The Division Bell

Listen again

Look again

As your thoughts will steer you

Leading the blind while I stared out the steel in your eyes

Lyrics, artwork and music will take you there

FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, I have watched and found that you have speculated on one level on meanings. However, no one among you has yet discovered the beginnings of what has always been there and the unusual challenge that has been included. So now I have been given a task — as your “guide” — to begin pointing you in the right direction.

LET ME BE CLEAR: For those of you willing to think through this perplexing and intricate problem, a singular prize awaits. But, the challenge is accompanied by a particularly complex solution. For those of you who choose to ignore or even ridicule this posting, it is your loss. It will be your own skepticism that precludes you from participating.

If you choose to discuss your progress openly on this forum, I will be able to help steer you from time to time.

CAREFULLY REVIEW my previous messages and this very posting for additional help and a place to begin.

Best of luck.

– Publius

When I first signed onto the newsgroup in ‘95, I chose the username “thesun” because of the sun’s importance to the album concept. When I read that Publius had posted that The Division Bell had a central theme and purpose, I knew for sure its purpose. But I wasn’t sure if I was supposed to play the enigma game along with fans. I didn’t think that I had to. I already knew the story.

The Enigma was obviously set up to get fans worldwide to communicate with each other and to decipher the clues by offering them a prize which would bring even more fans and more interest. For me, it was a place I could tell the story. I already knew there were clues in the artwork that went along with the story. I could interpret the clues in the lyrics and in the artwork in the CD booklet before I ever heard of Publius. But there were more clues that I didn’t know about. And the clues in the Publius posts helped me to find them.

In the first few messages Publius wrote, “Perhaps I can be your guide.” And in another post, “and where this information points to.” Then Publius put the two ideas together and wrote:

So now I have been given a task — as your

“guide” — to begin pointing you in the right direction”

In The Division Bell tour guide for North America, there is a page with a list of cities from the tour, if you hold that page up to the light, the cape from the other side points to the IT from the word DETROIT.

That clue led me back to the Gilmour Guitar World magazine article (see below) where the words on the page are written, “i know nothing whatsoever of this Publius character, i know people are hunting for something but i don’t know what it is”. And right underneath the words “it is” is the word Detroit.

September 1994 Guitar World magazine

An editor had to have planted the clue on the magazine’s page for it to end up like that. So the man with the pointed cape in the tour guide stands directly between the letters I and T in the word DETROIT when you hold the cities page up to the light.

Putting it together, you have the Publius clues of “guide” and “points to,” the tour guide page points to the letters IT from DETROIT and the magazine article clue showing “it is Detroit.” All these clues are connected. It’s an obvious “it is Detroit” answer to those clues.

So, from those clues alone, it’s evident that Publius was someone connected to the band or a band member themselves. I’m from Detroit, and I’ve always known the story. I felt it was up to fans to find the clues and then believe in me.

Earlier in my story, I wrote about the boxing glove representing the glove shaped Michigan. Now I’m showing how artwork and a Publius clue points to it.

The Publius clue “Let me help by pointing out that there is another physical location”. In The Division Bell CD booklet on the page with the boxing gloves, if you hold that page up to the light, you see a point from a cape on the other side. It’s on the right-handed glove on the left and it covers the 3 ties. Most fans said that the three ties represented the 3 members of Pink Floyd at the time. I say that the clue means that Pink Floyd has ties to the “Right One” in Michigan. “Right One” are lyrics in

“Lost for Words” which is the song the boxing gloves artwork is for.

Many words in Publius posts were automobile related clues, directing them to Detroit, the auto capital. The clues are steer, steel and crank.

But fans were looking for a more scientific, mathematical type answer. Gilmour knew I wasn’t college educated from my letter writing, so that’s why the clues were so simple. So simple that they were overlooked, even by myself at the time.

Then I read that Publius posted on July 16, 1994, the day after the Pink Floyd concert I attended. Publius posted this to the newsgroup:

To validate the trust of those who believe, as well as

to reconcile the doubt of others, I have gone to great

lengths to plan the following display of communication:

Monday, July 18 East Rutherford, New Jersey

Approximately 10:30pm

Flashing white lights.

There is an enigma.


On the night of July 18, 1994, patterns in the lights on the front of the stage at the Pink Floyd concert in East Rutherford momentarily spelled out the words ENIGMA PUBLIUS.

When I first saw the photo from the concert, I thought that sort of looks like DENI which is part of my name Denise. It looked like a D before the eni of enigma. Instead of the usual Publius Enigma, whoever arranged it in the lighting, put Enigma Publius.

Then Publius wrote “another unusual and conclusive signal is being prepared to validate your trust!” And on Oct 20, 1994,at the beginning of “Another Brick in the Wall part 2”, the word ENIGMA appeared on the screen behind the band.

The 2nd photo is from the P*U*L*S*E 1995 video however, the word ENIGMA had been altered from the original with additional pen markings.

3rd is from a different 1994 Earl’s court concert in London.

4th is from PULSE re-edited in 2020

I only wanted to tell the story somewhere, and I felt directed to the newsgroup by Gilmour himself. So I started to tell it as best I could. But putting it all in several long paragraphs wasn’t easy and it didn’t go well at all. I was excited to tell what happened and finally get justice for the awful things I was put through. But fans mocked and bullied me horribly and called me sick dirty names and kept saying that I was crazy over and over.

It was awful considering that I had just been through a devastating ordeal and I got through it all on my own by being strong minded and with the help of music.

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More clues that referred to the word DETROIT in the tour guide and the cape on the other side pointing to the letters IT at the end came from Pink Floyd’s then-manager Steve O’Rourke. I believe it was about 1995 when Steve was interviewed by a member of the newsgroup regarding the Enigma.

He was asked, “Do you know of any “puzzle” at all? Steve O’Rourke answered, “I’m sure someone will get to it at the end.” When asked about the enigma again, he replied, “I’m sure, I’m sure that someone will get somewhere at the end of it.” Then he was asked, “At the end of it?” And he replied, “Yes, I’m sure someone will. And then later, Steve said, “I am sure there is something at the end of it.”

I knew that he couldn’t say anything too direct, but he repeatedly gave a clue about the Detroit clue. His very simple words as clues went unnoticed by fans. IT is at the end of DETROIT, and that’s what he was hinting about so many times.

This next part will seem unbelievable, but it is what happened.

After The Division Bell came out and during the Publius Enigma newsgroup discussions, I wondered if Robert Plant had found out about how Carl Palmer and Sting were using his “Stairway to Heaven” lyrics to stalk, haunt and hurt me because I knew too much.

As I wrote earlier, I met Led Zeppelin through old friends who knew them personally for years, but I lost contact with those friends a long time ago. I thought about seeing Page and Plant in concert, but I still had that strange fear of hearing “Stairway to Heaven” again and was afraid they’d play it.

I knew they wouldn’t remember me, but I knew they’d remember the names of my friends. It seemed too bizarre that they’d even care or know about it, so I didn’t go to their concert. I didn’t want anything to ruin that magic moment I had with Plant in ‘72. It meant a lot to me. This enigma was becoming heartbreaking, and it was destroying some of my music memories.

Around 1995 I saw a photo from a magazine where Page and Plant have their fists clenched like they were angry about something and wanted to punch someone. The quote by Plant at the bottom reads, “Stairway to Heaven was a great piece for a period of time. But it’s so sanctimonious and redundant. It doesn’t make any sense.”

I was so happy to read that. It seemed strange how their new tour name Page and Plant were already connected to the enigma considering that enigma clues were planted on the pages of The Division Bell booklet and tour guide. I started to believe that they knew what was going on, but I didn’t realize it all until years later.

I revisited the Publius messages several years ago and found these clues from a November 28, 1994 post.

Post from Publius to newsgroup

Clues in that Publius post are the arranged capitalized letters which spell P P ORATES. (Orates means to give a formal talk on a subject). Page and Plant gave a formal talk. And “Path to Plunder” means to make extensive use of a new path.

On November 11, 1994, 17 days before Publius posted the message, Page and Plant gave a press conference in Tokyo. I found it on youtube. When answering the question “Can you explain what unleaded means” toward the end of his answer, Plant said, “It’s not like a kind of Pink Floyd stroke Emerson Snake and Charmer type of revival.” It is well known that the band YES would refer to Emerson Lake & Palmer as Henderson Snake and Charmer.

So that comment by Plant was an obvious clue and jab at ELP and YES. Another clue from that the press conference was that it took place on 11-11-94. A well known clue by enigma hunters is 11-11, which is from The Division Bell CD bookletpage 11 or ELF ELF (elf in German is 11). I’ll explain that clue later and how it tells a massive secret about Carl Palmer and Jon Anderson of YES.

Point clues were also planted on the advertisement for p^ge and pl^nt themselves. The A’s are like points. I immediately thought about the cape point in The Division Bell tour guide, pointing to Detroit on the other side. I knew that Page and Plant were also trying to help me get the story out to get justice.

And during the press conference, Plant gives a signal, looks at the camera, and then Page turns away to look behind at the screen, then Plant points, as if to a point from the album artwork on the screen behind him.

The Publius message directs fans to Page and Plant, who are much more direct with clues. It should be evident that Publius was someone directly connected to Pink Floyd.

So, is that why John Paul Jones wasn’t invited on the “No Quarter” tour? Because his name didn’t fit the enigma clues? Funny, but it sure seems like it.

I realized how huge the Enigma was becoming with other musicians joining to help get the truth about Palmer, Sting, Jon Anderson, and others. They used music to stalk and traumatize me, and you don’t use love songs to lie about love. It’s not just about me. Much more importantly, it’s about music and what a horrid thing those musicians did with it.

At the Led Zeppelin induction at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ceremony, when talking about a rehearsal place in London, Robert Plant said, “It was a pretty shitty place it belonged to Emerson, Lake & Palmer.” The audience started laughing, and then Plant said, “But we got a good rate on it,” and then he laughed. It’s all on youtube.

So initially, David Gilmour must have told Robert Plant what was going on with “Stairway.” In my letters to Carl which I believe were handed over to Gilmour, I wrote about meeting Robert Plant in Detroit, and I mentioned our mutual friends by name. So why wouldn’t Plant help out an old friend?

Like I keep saying, no musicians can talk directly about this story until I get it well known through my website, a book, or in media. Then I’ll see who comes forward.

This Chapter to be continued…..lots of clues left to show